Comments on: Raw milk in the news http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/ Planting, harvesting, and sharing information about local food Wed, 01 Feb 2012 02:31:44 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Crabby http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3488 Crabby Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:06:52 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3488 Well, if you want them to learn a lesson...Irish Spring. If you want to not kill them...Goatboy is a good alternative! Well, if you want them to learn a lesson…Irish Spring. If you want to not kill them…Goatboy is a good alternative!

]]> By: Sophie http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3486 Sophie Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:58:13 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3486 Crabby: Okay, so, let's say (hypothetically speaking of course) that someone's parent says, "I'm going to wash your mouth out with soap!" Would you rather it be Goatboy or Irish Spring? Crabby: Okay, so, let’s say (hypothetically speaking of course) that someone’s parent says, “I’m going to wash your mouth out with soap!” Would you rather it be Goatboy or Irish Spring?

]]> By: Crabby http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3469 Crabby Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:10:42 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3469 Oh, it's edible allright ... it falls under the category of "You could...I wouldn't...but, you could"!! Oh, it’s edible allright … it falls under the category of “You could…I wouldn’t…but, you could”!!

]]> By: sophie http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3466 sophie Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:16:44 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3466 @Crabby: You mean I'm not supposed to be eating the soap? ;-) @Crabby: You mean I’m not supposed to be eating the soap? ;-)

]]> By: sophie http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3465 sophie Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:14:59 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3465 @Biblio: I do agree with you. I expect the government to set standards and I expect businesses to follow those standards. I'm not talking about purchasing anything that has been fabricated in a non-compliant fashion. Following your analogy, I should be able to hire an unlicensed electrician who does everything in compliance with code AND MORE than code, but simply can't afford to purchase a license or who doesn't want to be part of the unionized electrical complex or doesn't want to have to buy his wire from a huge monopoly. Since you brought it up, though, the standards for compliance for Big Ag are different than the standards for little Ag. The laws are skewed against the small family farms. Big Ag determines the standards by which government measures compliance. The welfare goes to huge multinationals. If you really dig into the Farm Bill, it will turn your stomach. @Biblio: I do agree with you. I expect the government to set standards and I expect businesses to follow those standards. I’m not talking about purchasing anything that has been fabricated in a non-compliant fashion. Following your analogy, I should be able to hire an unlicensed electrician who does everything in compliance with code AND MORE than code, but simply can’t afford to purchase a license or who doesn’t want to be part of the unionized electrical complex or doesn’t want to have to buy his wire from a huge monopoly.

Since you brought it up, though, the standards for compliance for Big Ag are different than the standards for little Ag. The laws are skewed against the small family farms. Big Ag determines the standards by which government measures compliance. The welfare goes to huge multinationals. If you really dig into the Farm Bill, it will turn your stomach.

]]> By: TheBiblioholic http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3464 TheBiblioholic Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:34:16 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3464 @sophie: I see your point about not wanting someone to decide for you and make your choice illegal. On the other hand, we do depend on government to set certain standards for all of us, that we expect to be uniformly applied since we can't all be informed consumers in all aspects of life to evaluate when variance from the rule/law is safe/desirable, etc. Take for example building codes, electrical codes. Rather than have to seek out a trustworthy electrician who does things safely but "his way", I'd rather not have to worry about knowing his business well enough to evaluate his expertise and go with a licensed electrician who works strictly in compliance with the electrical code. Should I be allowed to employ non-licensed electricians to work on my house and wire things up in a non compliant fashion? It is my house after all... Oh, I want insurance coverage too? Hmm... @sophie: I see your point about not wanting someone to decide for you and make your choice illegal. On the other hand, we do depend on government to set certain standards for all of us, that we expect to be uniformly applied since we can’t all be informed consumers in all aspects of life to evaluate when variance from the rule/law is safe/desirable, etc. Take for example building codes, electrical codes. Rather than have to seek out a trustworthy electrician who does things safely but “his way”, I’d rather not have to worry about knowing his business well enough to evaluate his expertise and go with a licensed electrician who works strictly in compliance with the electrical code. Should I be allowed to employ non-licensed electricians to work on my house and wire things up in a non compliant fashion? It is my house after all… Oh, I want insurance coverage too? Hmm…

]]> By: Crabby http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3462 Crabby Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:25:34 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3462 As the owner of a dairy operation, I totally agree with Sophie. There is a problem with her thought process, however. She makes SENSE! Did you know there are cow milk producers who will not drink their own milk? Or milk from the cooperative they sell to? Did you know that bulk tanks of milk can be held for up to a week before they are homogenized and "zapped"? Also, I know Sophie and trust her. Were I to sell or give her raw milk and she got a case of the scoots, I would have no fear of her suing me out of business. Her common sense would tell her that her stomach bug could be any one of a thousand things. I will not go through the expense or aggravation of becoming dairy certified. I'll continue to use my milk for soap and keep the gov't out of my life. As the owner of a dairy operation, I totally agree with Sophie. There is a problem with her thought process, however. She makes SENSE! Did you know there are cow milk producers who will not drink their own milk? Or milk from the cooperative they sell to? Did you know that bulk tanks of milk can be held for up to a week before they are homogenized and “zapped”?

Also, I know Sophie and trust her. Were I to sell or give her raw milk and she got a case of the scoots, I would have no fear of her suing me out of business. Her common sense would tell her that her stomach bug could be any one of a thousand things.

I will not go through the expense or aggravation of becoming dairy certified. I’ll continue to use my milk for soap and keep the gov’t out of my life.

]]> By: sophie http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3460 sophie Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:34:55 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3460 Biblio: That's an interesting debate and I am all in favor of having the debate or at least the conversation. But I think I'd get perturbed if one side of the debate said, "I think this, therefore I'm going to spend my free time and resources making it illegal for you to hold your opinion." Local Cook: Cool video! Biblio: That’s an interesting debate and I am all in favor of having the debate or at least the conversation. But I think I’d get perturbed if one side of the debate said, “I think this, therefore I’m going to spend my free time and resources making it illegal for you to hold your opinion.”

Local Cook: Cool video!

]]> By: The Local Cook http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3459 The Local Cook Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:46:37 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3459 I drink raw milk too, and find it funny that people are so against it. Here's a great video that I used to help convince my husband to let us get a herdshare: http://www.jonnybowden.com/2009/04/is-milk-healthy-for-humans.html I drink raw milk too, and find it funny that people are so against it. Here’s a great video that I used to help convince my husband to let us get a herdshare:

http://www.jonnybowden.com/2009/04/is-milk-healthy-for-humans.html

]]> By: TheBiblioholic http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/index.php/2009/12/raw-milk-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-3456 TheBiblioholic Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:07:52 +0000 http://www.latebloomersfarm.com/?p=1478#comment-3456 And then there is the milk is for newborns and cow milk is for baby cows debate... And then there is the milk is for newborns and cow milk is for baby cows debate…

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